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« Reply #91 on: August 15, 2010, 07:46:22 PM » |
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In theory it is the same as the Sinclair method in that food (like alcohol) is being paired with a lack of pleasure. But even if it does not work on a behavioral level, it works as a practical matter by preventing the act of sugar binging. Either way it's a good thing.
Today was a good test because I always binge when I visit my mom's house. She always has the place stocked with Rice Krispy Treats and Ice Cream. I actually ate one Rice Krispy Treat and it was pretty bland although I still like the texture. I had one bite of ice cream and couldn't taste the sweetness at all.
So in the end, I did not binge even though I ate these items. Of course I'm embracing the idea of eating sweets so that I can pair them with no reinforcement (pleasure) as much as possible.
I'm no longer automatically taking the powder right after a meal, It's better to just wait for a craving or take it when it is obvious that there are going to be temptations (like at a County Fair).
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« Reply #92 on: August 16, 2010, 05:42:24 AM » |
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For this to be meaningful I have to actually give into the craving and take a bite of something sugary.
I'm no longer automatically taking the powder right after a meal, It's better to just wait for a craving or take it when it is obvious that there are going to be temptations (like at a County Fair). Fantastic discovery Sugardude! This is exactly what the Sinclair Method recommends. That you would take the Gymnema Sylvestre each time before you consume something sweet. With the Sinclair method you have to always take the Naltrexone before drinking, or in your case the Gymnema Sylvestre before consuming a sweet treat. From what I read, you have to be really consistent with it, for it to work. If you stick with it diligently, I'm sure you will have success. Are there people who have already used this as a method for eliminating cravings for sweets? First of all I tried the enlightened tasting with a bagel and cream cheese and I must say it was more difficult than I imagined (the spitting part). Within a half hour I was chomping down 2 bagels. I haven't tried it again since. You probably already know this, but you would also have to taste and spit those next 2 bagels as well. Initially the enlightened tasting increases cravings and you have to make it through that heightened period without swallowing the food that you are attempting to decondition. |
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« Reply #93 on: August 16, 2010, 06:48:30 AM » |
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You probably already know this, but you would also have to taste and spit those next 2 bagels as well. Initially the enlightened tasting increases cravings and you have to make it through that heightened period without swallowing the food that you are attempting to decondition.
Yeah I know it and I knew that it would be a problem for me going in. The good news is that it put me back in the deconditioning mind set so thank you. I know another person who simply ingests the caplets (non powder form) and she claims to have lost her cravings for sweets. But that has nothing to do with eliminating taste. I actually tried Gymnema powder a while back but my focus was on eliminating cravings which in and of itself it does not do. |
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« Reply #94 on: August 16, 2010, 10:31:54 AM » |
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I love when something is working atthe beginning because of the quick water weight loss. 2.5 lbs down from yesterday to 216.
Today is a work day so I'm not going to be faced with temptations unless someone brings in a box of donuts or something. On a day like this I'm usually faced with sugar cravings either after lunch or after dinner. If it's after lunch, I actually have to take the initiative to leave my place of work and buy something (or many things) from a convenience store. If it's after dinner, i usually begina downward spiral by dipping into the children's breakfast cereal. Either way, I'm going to embrace the craving.
Edit: It's 3:24 P.S.T. and I just at a half of a Kit Kat bar. Quite bland but still a little pleasureable because of teh texture. Still, I don't think I've ever eaten just a portion of a Kit Kat bar. I always eat the whole thing.
Interesting.
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« Reply #95 on: August 17, 2010, 02:00:51 PM » |
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Another day, another pound.
So yesterday I actually started getting cravings for teh rest of that Kit Kat bar about 20 minutes later. So I made sure I had a good amount of powder so I wouldn't taste any sweeness anywhere in my mouth. I finished the candy and that was the end of it. No more cravings.
Tonight I'm going to a barbeque for my kids' preschhool. I've done this event before. Lots of sweets for the taking.
Forced moderation is amazing.
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« Reply #96 on: August 18, 2010, 07:29:21 AM » |
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The water weight continues to shed. Another 1.5 pounds for a total of 5 pounds in 3 days.
After lunch yesterday (I was home) I had a small bowl of kids cereal similar to the Cinnamon Toast Crunch brand with non fat milk. Although I couldn't taste the sweetness, I still found it somewhat enjoyable because of testure of crucht cereal with cold milk. Good news was that I stopped there.
At the barbeque there were plenty of tempting cupcakes and cookies just as I expected. I ate one very small cupcake that had vanilla buttercreme frosting and those tiny flat circle shaped candies on top. I couldn't taste the sweetness and I was done after one. A little while later I had to try this chewy chocolate chocolte chip cookie. Maybe the effect wore off by then but I could taste it and it tasted damn good. Fortuantely, I did not have any cravings after eating that cookie and was good for the rest of the night. Obviously I'm surprised that I didn't have any cravings after that but I'm just going to be pleased with the gimme and move on.
Today I'm expecting a normal day (no external temptations) so I may or may not even Gymnefy myself depending on whether cravings develop or not.
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« Reply #97 on: August 19, 2010, 07:51:07 AM » |
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Down another half pound to 213. That's a drop of 5.5 since last Sunday.
I did not Gymnefy myself yesterday and I had no cravings. I also skipped dinner. I wasn't really hungry.
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« Reply #98 on: August 20, 2010, 07:13:51 AM » |
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Water weight dropoff week continues with a loss of two more pounds. I'm now down 7.5 lbs to 211 in just 5 days.
Yesterday I didn't take any of the powder but had some mild cravings in the evening after having some green grapes and whole wheat pasta. They weren't bad enough for me to go to the magic dust.
Today I'm off work so challenges will be present.
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« Reply #99 on: August 21, 2010, 07:23:18 AM » |
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We went out to dinner last night and I enjoyed myself....but no dessert. gained 1.5 lbs but I'm so okay with that.
I had a strong mental sugar craving yesterday which I fillled with some cereal and milk. Thanks to the magic dust I stopped there.
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« Reply #100 on: August 22, 2010, 07:58:10 AM » |
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A live and learn moment. My wife and I attended a gala dinner last night in Beverly Hills but I forgot to bring my dust with me. Miniature Hersheys were strewn all around the dinner tables. Guess who overindulged?
2 pounds up but at least I can say I lost 4 lbs for the week.
I've got to treat this stuff like they're my car keys.
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« Reply #101 on: August 23, 2010, 07:36:50 AM » |
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Yesterday I lost motivation and just did threw caution to the wind. I paid for it too. I'm now at 217 which is just 1.5 less than where I started.
Time to regroup. The stuff works but you have to be committed.
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« Reply #102 on: August 24, 2010, 07:28:36 PM » |
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SUGARDUDE, I don't get it. You come up with this brilliant diet and then you lose motivation as soon as it is working well. I don't mean to be brash, but is there something else going on here that is affecting your level of commitment?
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« Reply #103 on: August 25, 2010, 07:41:55 PM » |
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I don't know. It's almost like everything else. I lose a little bit and then I get these uncontrolable cravingsthat continue until I gain it all back.
Anyway. I've come back in from the deep end and now I'm throwing in the kitchin sink.Exercise,vitamins, apple cider vinegar before each meal, and glutamine plus Gymnema for cravings.
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« Reply #104 on: August 26, 2010, 06:49:06 AM » |
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Yesterday went smoothly until nighttime. Overall it was a success as I dropped a couple pounds.
Here's the thing. The Gynmema effect doesn't last that long. So if your cravings return 30 miutes (which s what is happening to me) you have to taste the stuff again. By that time I'm just ready to eat the sweets.
If it happens to me today I'll do it as many times as I need. However, it seems that I'm taking more bites of sweets trying to chase the sugar high and enjoying whatever pleasure I'm getting from it. Unfortunately, the Gymnema does not get rif of all taste....just sweetmess. So I can still taste flavors like chocolate and vanilla.
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