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Rehabilitation / My tribute to an optometrist - who told me the truth.
« Last post by OtisBrown on December 27, 2016, 07:21:18 AM »
Dear Friends,
I know we will struggle with the issue of "just prevention" or getting, "out of 20/60 vision", under your control.  But Todd was successful, because he had a "weak" prescription, and because he started checking his own Snellen. (Something almost all refuse to do.)  Here is the Optometrist - who told me the bitter truth - that the minus is the world's WORST SOLUTION.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvIV9DzW8pw

I only wish I had been provided with the science of the eye's proven behavior.  I would have accepted that I must always exceed the 20/30 line - under my control.  Science - proves that Todd was both correct and successful.  I just make no "claims" if you are now wearing a minus lens.
Enjoy !
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Rehabilitation / Re: My reductions + Floaters + hocus Focus+ High Plus
« Last post by j23 on December 20, 2016, 02:28:13 PM »
Hello j23! I try to answer you:
- i don t relax my eyes before exercices
-no occular pressure
-when blinkink staring or wear plus lens short improvement for only 15 mn
-no pain inside eye and no train one eye after the other. Is it important ? 
Do you see great improvement with your suggestions. 
What risks with high plus lens,?  Steven succes with this method...  Thanks

I am a newbie. So the improvement is very limited (I mean the improvement to have a stable better vision).

From personal experience - after the first month of using I got nearly red sore eyes and it took another month to recover
now on very first sign of uneasiness I stop for a while to get some rest.
 (of course I am using for nearly 8 h  / day so maybe this is the difference)
for the pain I feel it many times a day (as if too much pressure) - but of course may be because I never wear my minus glasses

Actually during the first month the ocular muscles were squeezing the eye so when looking at anything far produced tears and pain.
Now is a bit better - but far from "relaxed".

For acuity it is very variable - sometimes I feel to be around -1D (for better eye) - so when driving with my correction (-1D) I can see prettyclearly than used to be. But especially at home sometimes I can see Snellen lines better and sometimes not even the biggest 20/200 - with the same light conditions  (due to eyes fatigue I think)

I think it is unreasonable to use high plus because eyes can streach only a bit to see 'better' so even when you wear +2D looking into distance - then it is blurry enough. I am not an expert so can't say if Rajaty got the floater because of too much plus, but is possible if you have the 'more pressure response' inside the eyes.

I was not trying more than +2D and rather for close work only. But when I read from computer (comparing to reading a book) I need to see quite clearly so +1.5D are forcing me to sit too close to the screen. +1D are fine for me for around 50-60cm distance.

Summing up: from what I understood you wear contacts, thus if you take them off the blur is similar to what you are going to do wearing plus on top.

Maybe high plus can help, as the response (in animal studies) was higher with higher plus - but there are always limits ...
I think this is not the method Tod advocates to put such stress.

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Rehabilitation / Re: My reductions + Floaters + hocus Focus+ High Plus
« Last post by foie on December 19, 2016, 03:52:28 AM »
Hello j23! I try to answer you:
- i don t relax my eyes before exercices
-no occular pressure
-when blinkink staring or wear plus lens short improvement for only 15 mn
-no pain inside eye and no train one eye after the other. Is it important ? 
Do you see great improvement with your suggestions. 
What risks with high plus lens,?  Steven succes with this method...  Thanks
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Rehabilitation / Re: My reductions + Floaters + hocus Focus+ High Plus
« Last post by j23 on December 16, 2016, 01:00:06 AM »
Hello Rajaty ! great post !! I think you re right with shocking your eyes with strong plus lens !!! I bought +8 and +5 lens to train my eyes . How many minutes by day you wore your +5 to have improvements ? Did you watch the horizon or a snellen chart or a text near your face ?

Thanks a lot for your answer !!!

I think that Rajaty realized the risk and is not that eager to continue on such experiment.
I can see that you started nearly year ago and disappointed with results ?

Would you be so kind to respond to a few questions below:

  • Have you tried relaxing (palming the eyes) before exercises ?
  • Can you feel anything like occular muscles wear or pressure (after exercises) - which could mean that muscles tried to re-adjust the eye.
  • When blinking, staring - nothing improves (the eye does not try to stretch to see better) ?
  • After wearing plus when reading for a while (30-60 minutes) - when you take it off - do you feel a temporary (e.g. 30 minutes) improvement ?
  • Do you feel any pain inside the eye (some strain) when looking or exercising ?
  • Have you tried to train 1 eye at a time ?

thx
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Rehabilitation / Re: My reductions + Floaters + hocus Focus+ High Plus
« Last post by foie on December 14, 2016, 12:18:51 AM »
Hello Rajaty ! great post !! I think you re right with shocking your eyes with strong plus lens !!! I bought +8 and +5 lens to train my eyes . How many minutes by day you wore your +5 to have improvements ? Did you watch the horizon or a snellen chart or a text near your face ?

Thanks a lot for your answer !!!
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Rehabilitation / Re: Can the eye grow shorter?
« Last post by Alex_Myopic on November 28, 2016, 03:27:09 PM »
Υep, I should have written "myopic defocus".
If the eyes of people with presbyopia grew longer to adjust then their far sight would become myopic-unadjusted. But when shortsighted people wear plus to print push and say we accept that the eyes then grow shorter, it doesn't unadjust neither far nor near sight.

In Jake's site there are many posts of people over 50 having success. Jake says it is never too late.
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Rehabilitation / Re: Can the eye grow shorter?
« Last post by j23 on November 28, 2016, 02:00:49 AM »
@j23
Doctors who prescribe for presbyopia of course don't tell the patients to print push so of course there is limited by chance or no hyperopic defocus.

Yes, I now realized that for presbyopia a person is using glasses for the near point, thus this is the opposite for using the same glasses to extend the FAR point of the eyes. Only when accomodation range is nearly zero (for very old people) the conditions are the same.

So the summary would be (theoretically) - that when the far sight is 'emmetropic' then it prevents the eye to grow even if near point is shifting.

Do you mean rather myopic defocus? (myopic defocus should force the eye to get shorter - while hyperopic defocus ask the eye to grow, of course only in theory as we know that the eye is not growing for those people to adjust). When a person cannot see near point it means there is a natural hyperopic defocus in central retina which PLUS glasses move a bit to correctly focus.

The same goes for tooth cavities. If you ask a dentist if teeth cavities can be reversed he/she will say no except from very early stages with Fluoride.

For your example maybe more appropriate is to compare to swallowing gums (then we have a reversible condition on 'elastic' tissues, and not a tooth which structure is rather tough).

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Rehabilitation / Re: Can the eye grow shorter?
« Last post by Alex_Myopic on November 27, 2016, 05:21:40 AM »
The same goes for tooth cavities. If you ask a dentist if teeth cavities can be reversed he/she will say no except from very early stages with Fluoride.
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Rehabilitation / Re: Can the eye grow shorter?
« Last post by OtisBrown on November 26, 2016, 07:30:15 PM »
@j23
Doctors who prescribe for presbyopia of course don't tell the patients to print push so of course there is limited by chance or no hyperopic defocus.

Hi Alex - I have NO FIGHT with a "medical person".  It is just that I realized that they are "confused" at best, and arrogant at worst.  I GAVE UP on them.  When you ask about, "cure", you are told - THERE IS NO CURE.  YOU CAN NEVER GET OUT - OF 20/40.  The reality is that it is indeed difficult.  It means accepting that prevention means - doing it all yourself - as per this review.

https://www.quora.com/Can-myopia-be-cured/answer/Otis-Brown-8

As far as natural eye "refraction change" - that issue is resolved.  The eye can change its refraction - in both directions.  It just does it very, very slowly.  That is science - not medicine.

I believe in science - because I see the eye doing it.  If you do on believe in science - there is no hope.
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Rehabilitation / Re: Can the eye grow shorter?
« Last post by Alex_Myopic on November 24, 2016, 12:10:39 PM »
@j23
Doctors who prescribe for presbyopia of course don't tell the patients to print push so of course there is limited by chance or no hyperopic  myopic defocus.
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