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Rehabilitation / Re: Scientific honesty - and the arrogant optometrist.
« Last post by OtisBrown on November 03, 2016, 07:00:25 PM »
Todd's video - where you will find the scientifically blind - Donald Lasher.

I just do not make "claims" for a strong minus prescription.  For a weak prescription, of say -1.75 diopters - there is indeed hope.  The reason is that these arrogant OD, over-prescribe by about -1 diopter. 
This is why you must check your own Snellen - and work to clear the 20/40 line.  Do not bother with an OD on this - they are hopeless !
Rehabilitation / Re: Scientific honesty - and the arrogant optometrist.
« Last post by OtisBrown on November 03, 2016, 06:57:13 PM »

First Statement:  Donald Lasher  (In California)

Can someone please explain something to me. These exercises are supposed to reduce or eliminate nearsightedness, farsightedness, astigmatism and presbyopia. After 4 years of undergraduate work, 4 more at Berkeley getting a doctorate in eye care and 26 years of experience helping people see as best as they can, I have a pretty good idea about how the eye functions. Nearsightedness results when the cornea is steeper than ideal, putting a far image in FRONT of the retina. Minus lenses move that image back to the retina and therefore, put it in focus. LASIK flattens the cornea, and so fixes this problem. If the eye is longer than ideal, the same effect occurs. A distant object focuses in FRONT of the retina and is out of focus when it reaches the retina. So exercises that "fix" nearsightedness must do the same. They either flatten the cornea or shorten the eye. Farsighted eyes have corneas that are too FLAT or the length of the eye is too SHORT. But the guys promoting eye exercises do not distinguish between the two. The same exercises that fix nearsightedness should make farsighted eyes WORSE.
Astigmatism is usually the result of the cornea having a different curvature vertically compared to horizontally (like half a football as compared to half a baseball). How do these exercises change the radius of curvature of the cornea (like LASIK does) and why doesn't it make that problem WORSE as often as it makes it better? The same exercises work for ANY refractive error? That's like an MD giving the SAME prescription medication to patients with both low and others with high blood pressure. Does that make any sense?

Prevention makes sense - because the minus is proven to cause myopia, and well as long-term near.  Donald totally ignores this science - because he was taught severe intellectual blindness - towards objective science. 

Todd was successful - because he "by-passed" this type of arrogance and stupidity.  You should watch Todd's video.
Rehabilitation / Scientific honesty - and the arrogant optometrist.
« Last post by OtisBrown on November 03, 2016, 06:51:14 PM »
I "gave up" on optometrists - a long time ago.  The reason is that science shows that both, 1) Long-term near, and
2) A strong minus lens, cause myopia.  (Early stage - negative STATE of the normal eye.)

Todd lectured on his success with the plus lens - in broad perspective.  He was successful, by self verification, and used his own "methods", to include a plus lens and his form of "exercise".  I will post the remarks by a optometrists - who claims that Todd WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL.

But - of course - when you measure yourself - there is no doubt about your own success.  This is why I AVOID OD involvement, and make measurements myself. Always BEFORE I go to an OD or a DMV check (for 20/40).  You would
be well advised to do the same thing, and stop trusting OD measurements.
Rehabilitation / Re: My reductions + Floaters + hocus Focus+ High Plus
« Last post by rajaty on November 02, 2016, 10:16:42 PM »
I was indeed shocking my eye using high plus, but I do not thinking wearing low plus for near work shocks your eyes, I feel no muscle tension using +1,+2.
Rehabilitation / Re: Sudden Improvement
« Last post by rajaty on November 02, 2016, 10:13:32 PM »
Hi J,

1) Yes after prolonged wearing of plus, you can suddenly see better, but doesn't last for more than 20-30 minutes.

2) I felt some weird eye pressure using a high plus, improvements with high plus were sudden but I stopped using it since i don't know any risks.

3) +1, +2 are however used by people in general, I still use them and they do not give me any eye strain whatsoever. I can wear them for computer work for hours without realizing

4) yup in morning after waking up vision is great, Vitamin D was a conjecture, i shared what I observed.

Plus wearing is now part of my routine, i do not take out any special time for eyesight training.  Also give yourself 3-4 months before objectively judging results. On a day to day basis there will be improvement but not measurable.
Rehabilitation / Re: Started with -4,5, how should I proceed
« Last post by OtisBrown on November 02, 2016, 06:22:05 PM »
Hi Thomas,

I guess I must give you the "good news - bad news" story. 

For people with a mild prescription (say -2 diopters), it is possible to get to naked eye 20/40, that meets almost all legal requirements.  That is my goal - to reach a point that is reasonable - and I can stop wearing a minus lens.

At -4 diopters, no one can promise anything.

I do suggest you read, "EndMyopia" site by Jake - for ideas.

For myself personally - I make no claim of any success.  Here is my site for an over-all picture of the problem - and the need to start with the plus when you are still able to read the 20/40 line.

Just follow the discussions here - I think you will enjoy it.

Rehabilitation / Re: Sudden Improvement
« Last post by j23 on November 02, 2016, 12:23:27 AM »
Hi rajaty

This is my point of view - the flashes are because muscles of the eye are contracting the eyes length - thus short term improvement.
What I would expect in long term that the eye will compact so I do not have to use muscles for this (then with 'idle' muscles I could see).
I would ask anybody who succedded if this is the feeling long term (I can see on this forum another thread - "can the eye get shorter" , but without any details how one feels then).

It can be triggered as I understand mostly after blinking or when gazing at the objects. It does not mean that the eye is shorter by itself, but is just contracted by muscles. What we have to pay attention to is to relax ciliary muscle at this time - as sometimes eye starts strething ciliary muscle to see even sharper - but it is a stronger pain in the inside of the eye  - like a "needle touches your eyes"). Do you feel any such needles ?

When I look at Snellen I do not get the same good results as looking far away during the walk. When walking I can see distant objects clearly also for longer - like 30 sec , sometimes can reset this with blinking (and feel this push from the back fro the eye), of course when I am walking I do not have Snellen to measure it :)

1) In other threads you seemed to experiment with other PLUS powers than 1, of course the power required depends how far are you from the screen.
Do you have this effect as mine (I guess it must be common), after wearing PLUS for even a few minutes when I remove it I can see very clear (the eye is set in the "DISTANCE reading" state induced by the lenses). I guess it must be common, but would appreciate your confirmation.

2) I do not think small letters are better to make the training , I agree fully that vision training should be done on letters as they are black and white (easier for the eyes and the person to adjust when contrast is high).
What I prefer to do is to "try to control if the eye's back is compacting. I feel a slight pushing at the back of the eye - are you feeling the same ?

3) when eyes' muscles are having rest for whole night it is easy to guess that it will have strength to compact.
    In the morning I can see better without any vitamin - are you sure it is not a coincidence ?
    Of course it takes some minutes until after wake up all the eye are 'unglued' and start working in my case.
Rehabilitation / Re: Sudden Improvement
« Last post by OtisBrown on October 31, 2016, 06:10:58 PM »
Today was a great day.. for the first I  was able t clearly see a man's face 30 meters away ...great feeling...I was having several days where these flashes lasted for about 30 sec or more, today it just held giving clear vision, In morning i could even watch tv without glasses from 3 meters away.

What  am I doing?

1) Plus 1 for 4-5 hours for computer work, I've never done "print pushing", i just wear the plus, that does the job.
2)Read somewhere abut central fixation; i reduced my computer font to very small, this seems to be having a very good effect.
3) Vitamin D- I notice after every 60000 IU supplementation of vitamin D, my vision next morning is noticeably better.


Hi Rajat -

You seem to be doing this as "perfectly" as any could do it.
1) You do "print pushing" ONLY to establish that the plus is "strong enough".  I can only
guess at your refractive status - but is seems that a 20 inches a +2.0 is the right choice - for now.

2)  4 to 5 hours of "comfortable reading" though a plus - is simply relaxing.  I never understand why
people have a hard time doing it.

3) We all admit - results are very slow.  Our eyes "go down" at a rate of -1/2 diopter per year (in school).  We
can not expect them to "go up" at a rate faster than that. 

4) At the point you can see a "face" at 30 meters - it indicated you are getting 'flashes"  of 20/20.  (I take reading
the 20/25 line - as home to be real success.

5) As you continue to wear the plus -in this comfortable manner, you can expect the times of "clear flash" to last longer and longer.

6)  Yes - do not wear a minus lens when watching T/V .

What is the "hard part".  I truly do not know.  Because you just keep on wearing the comfortable plus - and enjoy life.

Rehabilitation / Re: My reductions + Floaters + hocus Focus+ High Plus
« Last post by j23 on October 31, 2016, 08:36:46 AM »
I did not use Snellen since the day one for one reason - to get a reasonable BASELINE
I know that much computer work could keep my eye too stressed, so before start I wanted to pass some warm up.

My goal is :
1. to check on myself if the method really works - reversing the direction of change (withut any mid term side effects on me - for long term of course I have to wait longer) ,
    until I will ask e.g. my child to do it
2. to check on myself if this is persistent enough (E.g. if I stop looking through PLUS for a week , how much gain will be lost), if the rate of loosing the sight is slow then it is worth a while.
3. as a side effect - to release accomodation - as recently I felt my eyes were really tense when it comes to accomodation

for the Snellen I would like see any improvement in reverse direction from my 'warm-up' baseline
Rehabilitation / Re: Just starting out, need advice
« Last post by j23 on October 31, 2016, 08:27:37 AM »
My doubt is about presbiopia in my near future (I know many that when reaching 50 of age have too short hand to read from near )

as the accomodation range is diminishing.

So for myopic eye it is an advantage to have refraction error, then even when 50 of age I will still have some near vision without additional PLUS lenses (due to age).
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