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Offline OtisBrown

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You are the optometrist - what would you do?
« on: February 11, 2015, 05:41:15 AM »

Subject: Play Acting - YOU are the optometrist.  What would you do?

Issue:  I deeply respect a man in his office.  But if you want to understand the problem of, "just prevention", from his point-of-view.  Todd's site is about learning, and finding a "window of opportunity", where prevention would be possible.

The minus lens, and the concept, was developed 400 years ago. 

The basic "optometrist process", is to have a person sit in a chair and show him a Snellen (visual acuity) chart.  Then, after the person reads a line on the chart, say 20/40. 

The OD then, holds up a minus lens, and clears the 20/20 line, or perhaps the 20/15 and 20/10 line.

(The OD also checks for "organic problems" -- that I totally agree with.  But that is not the issue we are talking about. The issue is "fixing" negative status of the natural eye - with a minus lens.)

That basic process, of checking for negative status of the natural eye -- simply will not change.  We should understand why it can not change.

Visualize yourself as the optometrist.   

My question to you is this -- how would *you* help a person to understand that prevention is possible, when the  minus works as it has worked for the last 400  years?

Is it really possible to actually discuss the possible alternative, in an OD office. 

Or is it impossible?

Going through this process - and greatly improve your understanding the problem of successful prevention,
and your intellectual leadership in that process. 



Offline OtisBrown

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Re: You are the optometrist - what would you do?
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2015, 05:44:37 AM »

Subject: Is it all about money, and prescription?

Item:  Is the optometrist, "locked into" a bad situation, that he has no hope of changing?

http://frauenfeldclinic.com/hbo-talks-billion-dollar-prescription-scam/

Is not telling you how to "PREVENT" at 20/40, a scam?

Offline HansK

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Re: You are the optometrist - what would you do?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2015, 08:13:50 AM »
If I were the optometrist, it would depend on my character: Is money the most important thing?

Especially the job of an optician is: SELLING GLASSES.

When you teach them prevention, you will get paid once or you offer a "course". If they do not stick with the plus - the people will be angry and spreading you are a cheater and a liar.

But if you just prescribe a minus lens - they are impressed and you get your money. It is highly probable that you will see your "new customer"/that customer again in 6 months or in a year wanting/needing stronger lenses.

There are also optometrists/opticians who try to sell contact lenses - why? You have to change them every month: That means more $$$$$$$ (especially on the long-term, when myopia "stabilizes" and does not progress that fast). The best would be Ortho-K because it is quite expensive.

The minus is easy - you get your money, the customer sees sharply (and is happy/impressed) and everything is done instantly. If we have a quick solution, why should we refuse it?

Offline Alex_Myopic

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Re: You are the optometrist - what would you do?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2015, 10:45:26 AM »
From my point of view in educated people it is not difficult to convince them to just try plus lenses because it makes very close work as if we try to see with zero accommodation (at far). Then comes the theory, that is fact to those of us who have tried plus), that constant near stress and full minus at near is a major factor for myopia. In few months, checking the Snellen chart the person will convince himself.

If the person doesn't know much about optics he can sure remember for example that after a 2-3 hours exam or study his distant vision may become too blurry even with minus on for about minutes or hours.

MAny other doctors specialists also think that only them know the truth and help with dental fillings (and diet plays no role in tooth decay), or take statins and pay visits to the doctor and ignore healthy diet! or ignore the healing herbs provide.

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Re: You are the optometrist - what would you do?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2015, 04:41:41 PM »
Hi Alex,

As some point, you must actually LOOK at the statistics and pure-science - to figure out that this child's habit - CREATES "negative status" for
their normal and natural eyes.

http://myopiafree.i-see.org/SaveEye.html

But of course, the OD in his office, will "deny everything", and the child will "refuse the plus", while still at 20/40 and -1 diopter - the only point
where the child could succeed with the plus.

Make your choice, to refuse to wear the plus, and refuse to look at a Snellen -- with your intelligence and wisdom.

No, I do not want you to wear the plus - if the concept seems "wrong" for you.

It is a very difficult choice.

Enjoy,



From my point of view in educated people it is not difficult to convince them to just try plus lenses because it makes very close work as if we try to see with zero accommodation (at far). Then comes the theory, that is fact to those of us who have tried plus), that constant near stress and full minus at near is a major factor for myopia. In few months, checking the Snellen chart the person will convince himself.

If the person doesn't know much about optics he can sure remember for example that after a 2-3 hours exam or study his distant vision may become too blurry even with minus on for about minutes or hours.

MAny other doctors specialists also think that only them know the truth and help with dental fillings (and diet plays no role in tooth decay), or take statins and pay visits to the doctor and ignore healthy diet! or ignore the healing herbs provide.
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