the bates method is a complete scam, let's be honest

[rtdfgdfgdfgdfg]

I have noticed something.

Every bates article, every bates youtube video, every bates website, are the most longwinded, tedious, pseudo-scientific ideas you can come across. 

If you cannot simplify and summarise ideas, you do not understand them.

Print pushing makes sense and gives results and is easy to understand

[OtisBrown]

Hi Rtd...

I almost agree with you.  But I do not completely agree for the follow reasons.

Here is the person, who causes all ODs and MDs to "choke", when anyone suggests that prevention is possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY9LqQMogX4

This is why I will never say, 'cure".  It is also why I will never allow myself to be a "critic" of any medical person.  I am just
very happy, I do not have to deal with such numb skulls.  I do not think you would enjoy it either.

Bates was correct.  If you want prevention, you can not wear a minus lens.

It is this blithering idiots that cause ODs to "cringe", when you want talk prevention, in the range of
20/40 to 20/60.  (About -1 diopter.)

You are correct, Bates followers, are frauds.   But Bates was not a fraud.

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I have noticed something.

Every bates article, every bates youtube video, every bates website, are the most longwinded, tedious, pseudo-scientific ideas you can come across. 

If you cannot simplify and summarise ideas, you do not understand them.

Print pushing makes sense and gives results and is easy to understand

[Alex_Myopic]

Bates mentioned about the harm minus lenses can do to the eyes, undercorrection, said that the extrinsic eye muscles had a big role in myopia and suggested sunning. There are papers nowadays that confirm these (and others that don't!).