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Offline HansGraf

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Newbie with very strong myopia but also hope, guts and sucess
« on: September 27, 2015, 11:09:20 AM »
Hi everybody,

I just stumbled over Todd Becker's fabolous youtube-talk about myopia and how to reverse it. That's why I joined here. I have a long, long story to tell with many different aspects and challenges, therefore I'll keep it short and somewhat structured.

I. My background

28 year old german male
got my first glasses with about six years old (don't know the diopters then, maybe -1.5 ?), progressed over the years to the current myopia of almost -12.0 on both eyes, the right glass is a little bit stronger. Although I haven't had my eyes examined for several years know, my estimate would be that I needed about -11.0 (left) and -11.5 (right) to be at 20/20 vision. BTW: 20/20 vision doesn't exist for me anymore not even in my memory. No combination of glasses and/or contact lenses could correct me 100% anymore. And even if ... after a very little time the whole process starts again - slight blur, stronger blur, new glasses, repeat. Been there, done that.
I'm a stutterer since early childhood (maybe that could be an underlying cause for my bad vision) and I suffer from other symptoms and problems such as porn addiction and a slight rounded and hollow back. Needless to say, I have a certain amount of depression, social anxiety, problems to make decisions and to "get my shit together".
I have a university degree and work on the computer for at least 8h each day (I have weaker prescription for the work on the computer)

II. My experience and success so far

discovered vision training a couple of years ago, got some books and began to practice, but I always felt something was lacking. And that something was a structured plan with clear behavioural guidelines. Good vision habits, a few exercises here and there and a "morning workout" and "evening workout" all fine and necessary but the key questions for me have always been: (1) how to progress objectively and reliable (2) how to deal with the existing dependency on glasses and especially contact lenses ?
My exercises and methods in a nutshell: palming, focusing exercises, swings, mediation, eye rolls, certain stretching and bioenergetic exercises, cold/hot water therapy, outlining objects with my nose/looking at details, blinking exercises, not wearing glasses/contacts whenever I can, intermittent fasting, ice cold showers, looking into the distance often, certain "superfoods" etc.
My success so far:

Many flashes of (dramatically) improved vision. Granted, not 20/20 but very encouraging nonetheless. Unfortunately the clear/er flashes only last a couple of moments, usually till the next blink and they improved just a bit over the last months and year.
Anyway: flashes of improved vision are as common for me nowadays as is breathing IF I stick to the exercises and good vision habits and that alone is motivation enough. And get this: with my amount of myopia I'm not supposed to see road signs or small details or car brands or leaves on trees or to read without glasses/contacts an arm-length away from me but I do all these things because I worked up to a level that I CAN see all that. And I'm sure that this is not the end but just the beginning. I'll never give up ! Ever.

Vision hasn't worsened dramatically in years, despite a stressful job and long hours on the computer. Remember: my vision got worse nearly every year by at least 0.5.

Astigmatism seemed to be gone at the last eye examination

III. My questions/concerns

I'd like to incorporate more print pushing into my daily programm(s). I can read without glasses and contact lenses but I have to held the book very close, depending on the weather (a bright sunny day is always best, of course, as everything is well lit). Sometimes I have to held the book so close in front of me that I start to cross eye but that's rather an exception. Not so exceptional is that I have the impression that one eye does more of the work, as I'm so close to the book.
As I wrote above, I can read an arm-length away if I'm in good shape, have a well lit room and maybe a good flash. But I understand that for print pushing you've to be in the "just ge
tting blurry" range.
Mr. Becker says in his video, that you should do two to four hours of print pushing every day. Well, I tried it a couple of times in the last week for about five to ten minutes and I hadn't the impression that it really helped that much. On the contrary, I'm worrying that the excess fosus on a very short distance might even worsen my condition, especially if I'm doing it for two to four hours each day.
As a matter of fact, in my current situation I can't really do two to four hours print pushing each day. Maybe if I would reduce my vision training and all the other methods just to print pushing but I don't think that would be a good solution. So I have to find a way to INCORPORATE it into my normal activities and routines, maybe even at work.
It's a little bit catch 22, to be honest cause I'm more or less dependent on glasses/contact lenses for working in the office. That means even if I did print pushing as Todd suggested I'd still had to find a way to incorporate it in my daily work day or even practising print pushing during work. Otherwise all my efforts seem to be doomed to fail since I'd destroy all my progress with the long computer hours.
Maybe I could try to place the computer further and further away and then switch to weaker prescription and start again.
It would be a somewhat similar approach that Ho from Vietnam (mentioned here before a couple of times) used with remarkable results.

Any suggestions or tipps for that ? Any other comments, ideas, thoughts ?

Thanks in advance and all the best !


Offline User1235

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Re: Newbie with very strong myopia but also hope, guts and sucess
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2015, 05:17:17 AM »
Hi nice to meet you.

I am sorry for the very long post and a lack of structure but i do try to give as complete an answer as i can so i hope you will take the time to read through.

I will strongly encourage you to read the endmyopia blog as there are answers to almost all your questions there although you do have to do a little digging.I am glad that you are very committed to improving your eyesight(look at the amount of exercises you are doing),i just hope that you dont burn out too early.In any case i am going to try my best to answer your questions and also throw in some of my advice.

Firstly my advice is that you skip some of the eye exercises(palming, focusing exercises, swings, mediation, eye rolls, certain stretching.Bates exercises are not really effective and in my opinion they are useless except for helping you to relax.During Bate's time most people only had ciliary myopia and that might have been sufficient but not in your case.)I do not know much about bioenergetic exercises but i don't think they are too important.Same goes for hot/cold water therapy.Outlining objects is alright but i do not advice not wearing contacts or glasses totally.Like Todd says in his blog our eyes would give up if the strain is too large.At -12 you can hardly see anything so i recommend reduced prescriptions(what the endmyopia website calls the differential prescription.)Use this for all close work to reduce strain.You can stick with the cold showers and distant viewing though i recommend a normalized prescription that allows you to see into the distance with just a bit of blur(a prescription that gives 20/30-20/50 whatever is suitable for you).This will allow you to practice active focus which is important in reversing myopia.(look up on endmyopia for mroe details)Personally i do not fast but that is up to you as there is evidence connecting insulin levels to myopia.

Doing print pushing does not cause more myopia  and you do not really need to be concerned about it though you need to be aware of too much strain causing red eyes.Our eye responds to stimulus and when using your reduced(differential) prescription you are providing a positive stimulus that will actually promote axial shortening.I would suggest you buy reduced prescriptions from Zenni optical and wear them to print push when doing your work in front of a computer.Remember to take frequent break in between to avoid too much strain.

Next,you need to keep a log to measure your eyesight.This is very useful as it tells you how much you have progressed and is an indicator of whether you are doing things right.A snellen is also useful though i doubt you can see anything at -12.Hence i recommend the centimeter measurement.Here is the link can read this for more details. will really provide motivation for you to keep on going and trust me at -12 you have a long way to go.I also advice you to read through the posts on the forum and the endmyopia website as much as possible.This is another source of motivation for me and i also find that i learn new things every day.This is very tedious but you can split it up and read through everything slowly.Personally i even read through the comments on the gettingstronger blog.It is a matter of how much there is to read but how much you want to improve your eyesight

I have done a lot of digging since i first started and here are some useful resources: steven's story in the forum,the hocus focus thread,
Jake has many videos that you can watch and alternatively, if you are too lazy to read through all this you can just subscribe to his online paid programme where he has organised all the information neatly for you.He saves your time but you have to pay.I personally did not subscribe  but instead i did a lot of research to compensate.However, the choice is up to you.

I hope my advice is helpful and do keep us posted about your improvements.I am glad that there is someone  other than me on the forum who is also trying to reverse their myopia.