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Offline OtisBrown

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Prevention is a black hole for medical people.
« on: March 10, 2016, 10:06:52 AM »
Subject: The writing is on the wall, (or in red ink on the glass).  The minus will destroy your vision - permanently.

Question:  Has Jake "gone to far", when he advocates prevention, and argues against the "traditional minus lens"?

In the final analysis, only YOUR education and MOTIVATION, can answer that question.

You must keep a "sense of humor" about these issues - or otherwise you would go crazy.

So Jake wants to, "Change the World".  More power to him.

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Offline OtisBrown

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Re: Prevention is a black hole for medical people.
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2016, 10:12:12 AM »
Dear Relative -- (wore the plus though four years of college).
Prevention, as I advocate it, is always personal. 

It simply can not be medicine, nor delivered as medicine.
I regret it, but that it the truth of it.
I pity the person who believes that anyone medical can help either you or me with this subject.
The ophthalmologist has already “given up” on you – before you enter his office.
As science, I can not “give up” on  you.


Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 8:10 PM

Subject:  David is an ophthalmologist, and a good friend.
To Don Rehm:
I admire David greatly – as an ultimate medical expert.
For all practical purposes, he represents  the N. E. I. position on "pure prevention"
Hi Otis –

You can probably leave me off the list that you send to.  I am glad to know that you are committed, and we know how to reach other in the future if needed,
but I have too many other projects going on to pay much attention to the myopia story just now.



You can not force a medical person to do a prevention study, when he simply does not have time to do it.

There is no sense in requesting it, or even proposing it.

For myself, I believe that a person must understand why that can not, and will never exist, a “medical” prevention effort.

The reasons are many.

If you wish prevention, and can still read the 20/40 line, you will have to do it yourself.

This is why I have a person, actually read his own Snellen, (at verified 20/40), and just tell him, entering a four year college,
that he will just have to, accept that –1/2 diopter per year, (for each year), and wear the plus until he gets to the 20/25 to 20/20 range.

Even when he gets to self-measured 20/20, he still must accept that –1/2 diopter per year, and CONTINUE TO WEAR the plus, for all close work.

The success is this.  It does not cost anything, other than this success is not medical, or a medical procedure.

Further, no one  in medicine, believes, that the type of prevention, is even possible.  (The doubt the intellectual capability of the person himself.
Now that I am “back to 20/20”, I just make all measurements myself – as an ‘exercise” in doing what is necessary.

I will not “bother” David any more.   But  - if a person wishes to protect his distant vision – he will have to do it totally on his ability.

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Offline Alex_Myopic

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Re: Prevention is a black hole for medical people.
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2016, 04:16:01 PM »
Here is a German  Dr. Frank Schaeffel who admits that near stress can cause myopia but at the end he messes all and picks a test of huge undercorrection (about 1 diopter) to say that undercorrection not only is useless but can do harm on human while on animals  "if you put lenses on an animal, it will become far-sighted"....